Charles Vicarage Pace 1870 - 1926 a coal miner from Staffordshire buried at Lethbridge, Alberta Told to me, by my grandmother and aunts when I was young ... He wanted to join his 'other relatives' in the USA, when his own family arrived in Canada from England. He'd gone to Canada, before them, around 1920 to work in Alberta coal mines, Drumheller, Lethbridge, with son CHARLES PACE and son-in-law, JAMES HOLDING of WIGAN, Lancashire.

Upon arrival of his family in CANADA, they'd go to where "the others" had gone in the US - cousins of his, daughters of his uncle WILLIAM PACE - but ...before his family's arrival in Canada from Liverpool, he died at LETHBRIDGE, Alberta ...Knowledge of where "the others" went/were, was lost ...all these years... Possibly, I've figured it out, using Roy Johnson's PACE NETWORK pages and reading NANCY BROWN's query. CLICK HERE - Similarities of Staffordshire, England and Pittsburg, PA USA coal, iron and steel industries, plus my grandad Charles had relatives, recently emigrated there, (below) led me to reason, this was probably the area in USA, he had in mind....Gordon T. Pace. CHARLES VICARAGE PACE had an aunt and uncle HENRY and MARY ANN SQUIRE nee PACE who had settled at Lethbridge in the 1880's. I had always wondered why they settled at LETHBRIDGE. This is what I have learned from my family and from my historical research work. From what my grandmother told me, my grandfather's aunt and uncle knew a HENRY and FRED PACE at LETHBRIDGE. HENRY PACE, a watchmaker at Lethbridge, previously of Ottawa (1870's), and had family in Minnesota, connected to the family of NORMAN WOLFRED KITTSON, mayor of St. Paul, Minnesota and partner in the American Fur Co. KITTSON and family were also in the steamboat business and later, partner with JAMES JEROME HILL in the railway business, coal and lumber. KITTSON and HILL became partners in railway aquisitions which led to the GREAT NORTHERN RAILWAY and became part of the CANADIAN PACIFIC RAILWAY syndicate Dr. JOHN KITTSON of the NORTH WEST MOUNTED POLICE (formed in 1873) was a son of NORMAN KITTSON. NORMAN's other son, ALFRED, was married to VIOLET PACE, daughter of HENRY PACE and HENRY PACE's brother FRED PACE was also an original member of the NORTH WEST MOUNTED POLICE. Could it be, the PACE Family of HENRY and FRED PACE were connected to my PACE Family? HENRY and FRED PACE were in the LETHBRIDGE area of ALBERTA in the 1880's and my grandfather's aunt and uncle, HENRY and MARY ANN SQUIRE nee PACE came from ENGLAND in the 1880's and show in the 1891 census of LETHBRIDGE More Alberta history click here

....see Fred PACE page on Norman's interesting comentary. The PACE name is well known, in this area of southern Alberta. MARVIN FOX mentioned their ancestral hunting grounds stretched from the Waterton - Glacier Nat. Park mountains on the west, to the CYPRESS HILLS in Saskatchewan, on the east and south into Montana. The GLENBOW MUSEUM in downtown CALGARY is an interesting place to visit and the famous CALGARY STAMPEDE in July. Early history can be found by reading the TOM THREE PERSON's story, a book by HUGH DEMPSEY who's written several other good books on the pioneer west. If interested, get in touch with the museum book store.

The fascinating story of FRED PACE, Standoff, Alberta including obituaries of FRED and HENRY PACE by descendent Norman Bevis MANYFINGERS, also ALAN CHARLES PACE, of the Calgary area.

TOM THREE PERSONS - said to be son of Fred Pace

NATIVE HISTORY STORIES of southern Alberta

 

WILLIAM PACE coal miner - what PACE family did this William come from ?
+ MARY HILL b 1840 New Invention, (Willenhall) Staffs  midwife

from 1881 census 1881 Census Dwelling: 18 Grout St. West Bromwich Source: FHL Film 1341682 PRO Ref RG11 Piece 2847 Folio 83 Page 11 WILLIAM HILL 63 Coal Miner born West Bromwich + MARY HILL 59 wife born West Bromwich WILLIAM HILL 20 unmarried Coal Miner born West Bromwich SELINA HILL 13 born West Bromwich LIZZIE PACE Widow 35 born West Bromwich widow of William PACE MARIA PACE Unmarried 16 born West Bromwich Rel: Boarder Occ: Domestic Servant EMMA PACE 14 West Bromwich SAMUEL PACE 8 West Bromwich THOMAS PACE 6 born West Bromwich EMMA stayed in England and married a JOHN CARTER. SAMUEL PACE in 1891 census was living with the HILL grandparents SELINA HILL married SAMUEL WILKS/WILKES and settled in Mckeesport PA WILLIAM HILL came to USA and settled in Florida family of WILLIAM PACE and ANN HILL It's uncertain how this WILLIAM fits into the Pace lineage ARTHUR PACE - b 1863 Willenhall + Fanny ADAMS 19 Nov 1898 WILLIAMPACE - b. 1864 Willenhall ANNA MARIA PACE - b 1865 Willenhall + Josiah PEARSON emigrated to McKeesport, Pennsylvania ADA JOSIAH ELIZABETH LILLIAN ANNE MARIA SAMUEL (born in USA) CHARLES PACE - b 1869 Willenhall MARY Ann/Ellen PACE - b 1872 preferred to be called ELLEN + THOMAS POPE - m 1904     emigrated to McKeesport PA

from 1997 PACE Network posting from descendent in Pennsylvania use "TIPTON" as search word Subject: Re: ANNA MARIA PACE Date: 97-04-16 From: Dogon8@aol.com (Nancy Brown) ANNA MARIA PACE was my great grandmother. She was born in 1865 in TIPTON England. She married JOSIAH PEARSON there and had six children ADA, JOSIAH, ELIZABETH, LILLIAN, ANNE MARIA, and SAMUEL (born in USA) they immigrated to America and lived in McKEESPORT, Pa. She was born April 25, 1865, the child of WILLIAM PACE b 1840 and ELIZABETH HILL... Do we have a match ? my name is NANCY BROWN, 150 Glenwood drive Monroeville, PA. 15146 any info will be appreciated. Thanks, Nancy from Heritage Center in McKeesport Anna Maria Pace Pearson. Born April 26, 1865, daughter of Hill and Elizabeth Hill Pase (note spelling). Came to this PA 1895. In addition to her children she was survived by a sister Mrs. Ellen Pope. Josiah Pearson was survived by six sisters in England and one sister in PA. Anna Maria made her last trip back to England in 1923. descendent - NR Duquesne PA I believe the Lizzy Pace widow living with the Willaim and Mary Hill to be our relative. I believe Mary Ellen Pace was known as Ellen, here they called her Aunt Nellie. I can find Elizabeth and Ellen in the 1891 Eng census in West Bromwich Ellen listed as 8 yrs (which doesn't fit Mary Ellen Pace Popes birthday of May 9 1881) but possible. I am interested in the WILLIAM PACE who apparently died before census of 1881. Do you have any clues? The WILLIAM HILL came to USA and settled in Florida, EMMA stayed in England and married a JOHN CARTER. SAMUEL PACE was living with the HILL grandparents in 1891 census. SELINA HILL married SAMUEL WILKS/WILKES and settled in Mckeesport Pa as did my grandparents MARY ELLEN and THOMAS POPE and MARIA PEARSON. These were from West Bromwich, England. Descendent - SM Arkansas 1861 census - WILLIAM PACE was 21 years old - born abt 1840 - and looks to be the WILLIAM who married ANN (ELIZABETH) HILL but by time of 1881 census WILLIAM must have died, ANN PACE nee HILL (Elizabeth) was a widow living with her father WILLIAM HILL at West BROMWICH with her children 1861 census at WILLENHALL has ENOCH PACE, 29, born WILLENHALL head of household, THOMAS PACE 19 brother, born LANEY GREEN, WILLIAM PACE 21 - This WILLIAM would be born abt 1840 and not the WILLIAM who married ANN HILL as this WILLIAM is likely the WILLIAM who appears on the 1901 census 1901 census - WILLIAM PACE WILLIAM PACE 60 Head (born abt 1840) born Laney Green, Sardon Staffordshire coal miner + MARY PACE 57 wife Willenhall Sardon Staffordshire WILLIAM PACE 36 son born Shareshill Sardon Staffordshire coal miner MARY ANN PACE 28 dau born Shareshill Sardon Staffordshire

from 1997 PACE Network
Gordon also found the following related query on the Pace Network and responded.
It's great to see the Pace Network work this way,
Here is the query and his response
webmaster RJ !!

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Subj: Re: ANNA MARIA PACE
Date: 97-04-16  From: Dogon8@aol.com (Nancy Brown)

ANNA MARIA PACE
was my great grandmother. She was born in 1865 in TIPTON England. She married JOSIAH PEARSON there and had six children ADA,JOSIAH, ELIZABETH, LILLIAN, ANNE MARIA, and SAMUEL (born in USA) they immigrated to America and lived in McKEESPORT, Pa.
my name is NANCY BROWN, 150 Glenwood drive Monroeville, PA. 15146
any info will be appreciated. Thanks, Nancy

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NANCY ALSO WRITES:
She was born April 25, 1865, the child of WILLIAM PACE b 1840 and ELIZABETH HILL...
Do we have a match ?

CLICK ON WILLIAM PACE, above, brother of EDWARD PACE...my grt grfather

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SUBJECT:  Re: ANNA MARIA PACE - Your Pace Net Wrk - query [Staffordshire - Pennsylvania]
Date: 98-01-09 From: gordpace@eagle.ca (Gord Pace) To: dogon8@aol.com (Nancy BROWN)

Hello Nancy,
My name is Gordon Thomas Pace, PO Box 3066, Brighton, Ontario, Canada K0K1H0 (905 355-9942>

ANNA MARIA PACE, born at TIPTON, ENGLAND in 1865, That's about six to eight miles from where my great grandfather came from.... CANNOCK, in STAFFORDSHIRE. Please take a look at the UK PACE QUERIES page, when you get a moment, and the top of the other one that says 1997 queries.....I don't know who my great grandfather had for brothers and sisters, at this time, for sure, but I have a few related PACE people that emmigrated here, from England pretty much the same generation (age). I'm trying to fit them into my Family Tree Maker programme. I know there were more and some went to the USA, where my grandfather, CHARLES VICARAGE PACE 1871-1926 wanted to go.....CLICK - grandfather's ambition

It's possible there's a connection between your great grandmother ANNA MARIA PACE b.1865 and my great grandfather EDWARD PACE.....They're both STAFFORDSHIRE PACES,...

(WILLIAM PACE may be brother to my great grandfather EDWARD and his brother JOSHUA, who emigrated and settled at NORWOOD, Ontario. Two sisters also emigrated and settled at NORWOOD. [ It turns out he was ] I know "JOSH" to be brother of EMILY SQUIRE & MARY ANN SQUIRE, (both nee PACE), all children of JOSHUA and HANNAH PACE....I'm working on it with my second cousins in ENGLAND, from Walsall, that I found through these Pace Network pages....GP...Look at family of JOSHUA PACE, parents & siblings, at top of page.

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- NOTE - The 1841 Census shows WILLIAM and EDWARD as brothers,
sons of JOSHUA / HANNAH PACE

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I wrote:- in 1881 - Do the names of this family sound familiar? -

PACE, WILLIAM.. 41 born Shareshill, Staffordshire, England
PACE, MARY... 41 midwife born New Invention, Willenhall Staffordshire...(SQUIRE family area)

1. PACE, ARTHUR..b.1863, Willenhall, Staffordshire
2. PACE, WILLIAM.. b.1864, Willenhall, Staffs
3. PACE, ANNE........ b.1865, Willenhall
4. PACE, CHARLES.. b.1869, Willenhall
5. PACE, MARY ANN  b.1872
6. PACE, FANNY.. b.1875 Shareshill

NOTE: - Could be some of these folk in the lock businesses too - GP
She writes back:- Looks like our family, thanks, Nancy
 
After reviewing the 1851 and 41 censuses, WILLIAM PACE shows up in the JOSHUA / HANNAH family...my Great, great grandparents   GP

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Subject: PACE FAMILY - Date: Fri, 23 Jul 1999
From: "Leslie Tillman" - kevlar@troi.csw.net...To: gordpace@eagle.ca

I'm researching my mother's family. Her grandmother was MARY ELLEN PACE b. in England on May 8, 1880(?). I don't know anything more about her background. She married THOMAS POPE, also from England, in 1904. He was the son of BENJAMIN POPE and MARY PRITCHARD, whom we know nothing more about. They moved to Pennsylvania shortly after that.

Is she a familiar name?
Leslie Tillman, Delaware, Arkansas

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YES ...click on MARY ELLEN, see where she fits in Pace lineage

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RETURN to WILLIAM's spot in PACE of SHARESHILL lineage above
Josiah PEARSON 7 March 1877 , married a cousin of C.V.PACE and emigrated to McKeesport, Pennsylvania, in the 1890's...

2nd Marriage of JOSEPH PASTE - MARY PITT 10 June 1771
PACE, GEORGE bapt 28 Sept 1772 Shareshill

Family of their son
GEORGE PACE who wed MARY COOPER - 29 Sept 1799 at BUSHBURY, Staffordshire

1. CHARLES - [not certain] b c.1800 Saredon ...wife MARIA, children Hannah, George, Sarah
2. SARAH - bap. 10 Apr 1803 Shareshill ...wed JOSEPH JONES Shareshill 27 Aug 1822
3. PHOEBE - bap. 10 Feb 1805 Shareshill ...wed ALEXANDER REED Wolverhampton 4 Apr 1831
4. MARY - bap. 25 Feb 1807 Shareshill ...wed GEORGE EVANS Wolverhampton 10 May 1830
5. GEORGE - bap. 8 Oct 1809 ...wed ABIGALE BROWN Wolverhampton 9 May 1831
   .....Son JOSHUA PACE bap. 23 Oct 1831 - Adrian's line
6. MARIA - bap 7 Jul 1814 Shareshill ...wed JOSEPH SMITH Wolverhampton 29 Nov 1835
7. ANNE - bap 7 Jul 1814 ...wed HUMPHREY PARKER Wolverhampton 10 Feb 1834
   .....son THOMAS PARKER b 1842

RETURN to GEORGE's spot in PACE of SHARESHILL lineage above

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OTHER PACES - settled in ALBERTA, Canada and USA

PACE, HENRY 1836-1899 b.England Watchmaker/Jeweller Ottawa Ont 1870s later 1880's/90's Lethbridge N/West Terr [Alberta after 1905] bro Fred PACE, Standoff & Sidney PACE Great Falls Montana

PACE, FREDERICK 1841-1898 Standoff NWT [Alberta]....one of original constables of N/West Mounted Police 1873 at formation of force....Trading post/merchant/post office, Standoff, NWT. - PACE Pioneer in Southern Alberta

ALVIS MILTON PACE from NC b Jul 1872 d 13 May 1950 Mannville Alberta
son of SIMEON PACE & ELIZABETH HADLEY, of North Carolina...Short story on Pace Network

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Curious about HAMPSHIRE PACES, I posted to a Hampshire, UK list. Maybe there's other Pace related folk researching Hampshire ancestors. This arrived the following day.

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Your posting has come at a very opportune moment, as only yesterday I learned of a PAICE from BASINGSTOKE, Hampshire marrying into my family of BUTLERs. The Information I have is:

Deborah BUTLER (bapt. 28July1811) married Charles PAICE of BASINGSTOKE on 19May1832 at BAUGHURST, Hampshire, UK

DEBORAH was the daughter of John BUTLER (born 1780/1) and Mary (born 1788/9) of BAUGHURST, hence the marriage there. The village of Baughurst is a few miles north of BASINGSTOKE. I know nothing else about the marriage, or if there were any children. There are a lot of PAICEs listed in the BASINGSTOKE 1851 Census, including a CHARLES aged 33, but no DEBORAH. There are also some listed for BASING (just to the east of Basingstoke). My family are descended from Deborah's younger brother WILLIAM (born 1820).

Regards,
Sue Daws, Huddersfield, West Yorkshire, UK

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Subject: NELLY BICKNELL - MORRIS - PACE
Date: Wed, 6 Oct 1999 From: "john t. pace" To: gordpace@eagle.ca

I am trying to trace the family of my great aunt, NELLY BICKNELL. She was born in Clerkenwell, London in the 1890s. Her dad was JACK BICKNELL. She had two sisters, and one brother, JOHN BICKNELL, (my grand dad). Her mother was CAROLINE ELIZABETH MORRIS. She married a Canadian serviceman during or after the first world war and moved to Canada. We think Ontario, around this time.

Her son Bobby served in the UK during the second world war when he contacted the family, but we have no way of knowing where her family now live. NELLY BICKNELL was her maiden name, and we have lost her married name, so her son BOBBY would have his dads name.

My mother, (Nelly) named after her, would dearly love to contact her Canadian cousins. if any one can help us, please contact me we would be very grateful.

John T. Pace in North Weald, Essex UK

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NOTE - John above may be connected to HENRY & FRED PACE, mentioned in Norman Manyfingers section above.... MANYFINGERS of Alberta

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Subject: DUDLEY family....Date: Fri, 6 Aug 1999
From: jim evans jim@ahough.demon.co.uk....To: gordpace@eagle.ca

My interest is the village of Essington, midway between Wolverhampton and Cannock Staffordshire. One of the main industries in the village use to be brick and tile making at the Rosemary Tileries. In 1900 JOSEPH RAYBOLD DUDLEY was appointed foreman and came tolive in Essington, previously having lived in Cannock. Originally he came from the Dudley area and was born in about 1864. He died on the 2nd December 1938. He had a younger sister SARAH who I don't know much about, only that she married a Mr Ball, then there was a younger brother REUBEN who died in 1939, and he was the engineer at the Rosemary Tileries. While I can't, at this stage, go back any further, I can bring the family tree more up to date with descendants. If you think there could be a connection with your Dudleys I will supply more details. This information has been obtained mainly by talking to descendants of the Dudley family.

jim evans

This certainly looks to be the DUDLEY folk I've been looking for.

see DUDLEY/PACE connection above

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NOTE - Obviously, my grandfather CHARLES PACE was brought up in the DUDLEY family, of REUBEN DUDLEY, having half brothers, sisters....Gord Pace

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SUBJECT:   Re:  PACE GENEALOGY
Date: Thu, 20 Aug 1998   From: AFe9963285@aol.com    To: gordpace@eagle.ca

I have in my notes on "your" Joshua; in the 1841 census, age 35, and in the 1861 census aged 53....On 30 September, 1833 Joshua married Hannah HICKIN at Walsall. This would seem to tie nicely to a first child bapt. 6 August, 1834, and could be confirmed via a birth certificate for one of the later children. I believe he was the son of William PACE (married Mary BROWN in 1785??). William, I think, was the half brother of George, wife of Mary COOPER. Thus our common ancestor was probably JOSEPH PACE bapt. at Shareshill on 1 Feb, 1735 son of Joseph PASTE b 1709 and Margaret MATHER.

Looks like we are probably from the same family of PACE from SAREDON. My 3X great grandfather was Joshua PACE baptised at BILSTON, Staffs. on 23 October, 1831. Joshua was the son of GEORGE PACE and Abigail BROWN who had married at Wolverhampton on 9 May, 1831. Although I do not have absolute proof, there is circumstantial evidence suggesting George was baptised on 8 October, 1809 at Shareshill, son of George PACE and Mary (probably COOPER).

Do you have enough information to either agree or disagree with my theories?
Great to hear from you. This all looks very promising.
ADRIAN in Pennsylvania

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