It happened in Kielce on the 20th of March 1831 at 8 AM. 40 years old Wilhelm Precher, mechanic and 40 years old Eliasz Kisielewski, inspector, both living in Białogon village, appeared in front of me and stated, that on the 18th of March at 8 PM, in that village, 43 years old John Pace, husband of Marianna, father of Józef and Matylda, has died. After making sure about John’s death personally, this document was read to the present, and signed together with them.
a GENFORUM posting
SUBJECT - JOHN PACE -
and follow-ups:click on LINK - see correspondence with descendent JACEK LOWINSKI in Poland
who was asking:
I'm looking any information, on John Pace from Birmingham, born abt 1789 in England, died april 1831 in Bialogon Poland. He married Ann Tetley (Fitley), her dougther Mathilde Pace as Christianing in July 1817 Wedensbury.
I answered the posting - Re: JOHN PACE - Date: September 04, 2005
Jacek, this is interesting, your JOHN PACE b JUL 1794 Wednesbury looks to be son of JOHN PACE b Oct 1761 SHARESHILL who was son of my JOSEPH PACE - b 1 Feb 1735 Little Saredon, Shareshill parish, Staffordshire who was my 4X great grandfather.
In JOSEPH's 2nd marriage, his PACE family went to BILSTON, adjacent to WEDNESBURY where your JOHN PACE was born 1794. His parents, JOHN & CATHERINE also had Christenings at BILSTON. This JOHN PACE who married a Catherine (Elizabeth) looks to be brother of my 3X great grandfather WILLIAM PACE.
It's making sence.
This JOHN must have followed his father JOSEPH PACE b 1735
to the BILSTON / WEDNESBURY area and carried on life there. Not a great distance anyway. Maybe 10 miles. Previously knew
nothing of JOHN PACE brother of my 3X gg/f WILLIAM PACE b 1765 Until I read your posting.
Re: JOHN PACE - Date: September 05, 2005
I apologize for weak English, I think that text will be comprehensible aly. jacek_lowinski@wp.pl
John Pace, along with wife Ann, and children Joseph Founes - Pace and daughter Matilda, in the latter part summers
20, XIX century. Arrived from him also his Ludwika's sister Pace, which went out married for Joseph Kugler.
Different mechanics along with was imported to Polski by duke Drucki - Lubecki to start metal factory in
Bi�ogon near Kielc. Factory these had to be started in April 1831. before actuation factory, he got lost (killed) tragically,
was drawn in by near steam-engine and he got lost. Wins over of aunts writes about this in one's remembrances.
1. John Founes - Pace our the great grandfather Bia�ogon this wins over of the oldest factories metallurgical in Poland. Established in 1817 year on suburb Kielc by Stanislaw Staszic initially as foundry to melting the non-ferrous metals, and then the factory of Budowy of Machin, because the natural resource, which oneself Staszic he expected in neighbourhood, they disappointed. It machines hereinto were imported was factory from Englandi and to setting of their English arrived, and between them John Pace our great great grandfather. Dressed in some jacket with of the the time fashion the whether frock coat the modes of machine drew in for tail and he got lost. The board towards his memory was has built in on walls of factory which exists to today. Two of these English machines worked till 1956 year. The factory exists up to here, the factory of pumps, part of factory documents is in Archiwum at present in Kielcach. John he had son and daughter, which hid at Skarbk�w for some time, then hr. Skarbkowie gave wife - widow after John Pace, aswidow's pension, Mstycz�w property and brick-yard. Son got Mstycz�w, daughter went out married for Schirmer. Supposedly Schirmer, Helusia and they know Olek they interest them oneself genealogy and have message about family.
2. Z beginning XIX century the duke Xawery Drucki - Lubecki he imported to Poland the foreigners - the experts the aim of extension evolvent oneself the home industry. In 1826 year the engineer arrived from Anglii John Founes the Pace which was charged the device of mechanical factory in Bialogon under Kielce. He got lost tragically, drawn in through flywheel in eve actuation in 1831 year the plates shop new. His son he - J�zef Pace - received from Russian government high damages, for which purchased Mstycz�w in 1856 year from Leon Skorupka.
3. Aleksander Boche�ski, W�dr�wki po dziejach przemys�u polskiego, cz��� II. IW �PAX�, Warszawa 1966. S. 360.
Tragical starting - spring 1830
Wolicki ordered and with this duty machines he arose pretty well. And despite this - just whether it is not better
from machines yet English technicians' personnel was: the engineer William Preacher from machine factory on Solec
and mechanics: John Founes Pace and the William Mac Connol. If machines were so well tinned then then therefore,
that they taught this our mechanics not only professional, but first of all reliable and conscientious work.
Installation 27 machine tools and drills - just except English more far produced already factory on Solec - mechanic directed Pace.
"The spring 1830 year - how Jan writes Pazdur - in eve of prospective arrival the comission from Warszawa,
in persons Piotra Micha�owskiego, the later famous painter and Leona Sapiehy, John recommended the Pace to
raise the flood-gate to to make sure or the whole functions without accusation. Having noticed in time of movement
the need of small correction, he approached to screw tight slack screws personally. They kidnapped cog-wheel him for jacket,
and got lost on the spot.�
I over this grave will return in next report yet - because saddens me and angers, that nor Pace, nor so many of different dead the and carbon papers it near building and production did not it wait for it then the poetry, but just the beautiful prose which their memory would keep. Let's there nowlet's finish about these chapter first, what work dead they led still.
5 JOSEPH PACE - b 1 Feb 1735 Little Saredon, Staffordshire - my 4X great gransparents
+ 1st wife - MARY EVANS - of BREWOOD - m 19 Jul 1757 - d abt 1770
+ 2nd wife - MARY PITT - m 10 June 1771 - (probably of Shareshill the PITT name was popular) -
NOTE - Around 1770 - MANY DEATHS OCCURRED IN THIS GENERATION
JOSEPH's 2nd marriage was to MARY PITT m 10 June 1771
INCLUDING MOTHER MARY EVANS - THREE CHILDREN SURVIVED
JOSEPH, JOHN & WILLIAM of seven children Christened.
resides in Pennsylvania, USA
ADRIAN FENTON
has supplied much info
on this part of the PACE family
which seemed to move to
nearby BILSTON
+ 2nd wife - MARY PITT - m 10 June 1771
~ Descendents in Pennsylvania, Arkansas, Poland, Finland, Canada ~ ~
- 6 JOSEPH PACE - Chr 02 Jul 1758 SHARESHILL
- 6 MARY PACE 1760-1763 - Chr 25 Jan 1760 SHARESHILL - bur 26 Jul 1763
- 6 JOHN PACE - Chr 18 Oct 1761 SHARESHILL
- evidence indicates- this JOHN may have stayed with father JOSEPH and 2nd wife MARY PITT
- and settled at BILSTON
- a son and daughter went to POLAND
- + SPOUSE (possibly) Catherine (Elizabeth) HARGROVE
- 6 THOMAS PACE 1764-1764 - Chr 29 Jan 1764 SHARESHILL - 22 Jun 1764
- 6 WILLIAM PACE 1765-1811 - Chr 14 Jul 1765 - my 3X great grandfather
WILLIAM PACE 1765-1811 who I (GTP) descend from was said to be from BRADLEY in his marriage to MARY BROWN of nearby HAUGHTON. So it could be asked, if father JOSEPH and 2nd wife went to BILSTON - who brought up son WILLIAM of Bradley ?
- 6 ANN PACE 1768-1769 - Chr 15 May 1768 - 8 Feb 1769
- 6 CHARLES PACE 1770-1770 - Chr 6 May 1770 - buried 14 Aug 1770, SHARESHILL
+ 2nd wife - MARY PITT - m 10 June 1771 ~ Descendents in Pennsylvania, Arkansas, Poland, Finland, Canada
JOSEPH re-married MARY PITT (a popular surname - PITT - of SHARESHILL parish) J OSEPH & MARY moved to BILSTON, a few miles south of SHARESHILL. It seems son JOHN b 1761 of 1st marriage, accompanied JOSEPH & MARY to BILSTON.
+ (possibly) CATHERINE (Elizabeth) HARGROVE
JACEK LOWINSKI - about JOHN FOUNS PACE of Staffordshire, England (webmaster's PACE family)
a mechanic who went to POLAND to install industrial machinery.
I saw Jacek's posting on GenForum,
recognized the names in his request, and answered.
a GENFORUM posting - JOHN PACE - and follow-ups:
click on LINK - see correspondence with descendent JACEK LOWINSKI in Poland
who was asking:
I'm looking any information, on John Pace from Birmingham, born abt 1789 in England,
died april 1831 in Bialogon Poland. He married Ann Tetley (Fitley),
her dougther Mathilde Pace as Christianing in July 1817 Wedensbury.
Jacek later sent this - CLICK ON highlighted link
PDF file - magazine story includes JOHN FOUNS PACE his ancestor
I answered September 04, 2005 saying:
Jacek, your JOHN PACE b JUL 1794 Wednesbury appears son of
JOSEPH PACE - b 1 Feb 1735 at Little Saredon, Staffordshire (Shareshill parish).
+ Christening records indicate parents JOHN and CATHRINE
and a son was named JOHN HARGROVE PACE
so the mother was likely CATHRINE HARGROVE
although I couldn't find a marriage to indicate this.
- evidence indicates
this JOHN b 1761 likely stayed with father JOSEPH b 1735
and 2nd wife MARY PITT and settled at BILSTON
see-BILSTON CHRISTENINGS
Includes MATILDA PACE Christening: Jul 1817 SAINT BARTHOLOMEW, WEDNESBURY, Staffordshire
a son and daughter went to POLAND
JOHN b 1761 - spouse (possibly) Catherine (Elizabeth) HARGROVE
because his son JOHN (Chr.1794) had HARGROVE as his middle name
WILLIAM PACE 1765-1811 who I (GTP) descend from was said to be from BRADLEY in his marriage to
MARY BROWN of nearby HAUGHTON.
Many deaths occurred in the family - I tried to learn if there was an epidemic around 1760s.
- In JOSEPH's 2nd marriage, his PACE family moved to BILSTON,
which is near to WEDNESBURY where your JOHN PACE was born 1794. - His parents, JOHN & CATHERINE also had Christenings at BILSTON.
- This JOHN PACE who married a CATHERINE (Elizabeth) appears as brother of WILLIAM PACE 1765-1811 - my 3X great grandfather -
It's making sence. This JOHN must have followed his father JOSEPH PACE b 1735 (my 4th great grandfather) to the BILSTON - WEDNESBURY area
of Staffordshire (West Midlands today) and carried on life there; not a great distance actually, maybe 10 miles.
I previously knew nothing of JOHN PACE. brother of WILLIAM PACE b 1765-1811 - my 3X gg/f - until I read your posting.
GO TO:
CLICK HERE to see where - in PACE lineage
If you look at this page, it may help. I'll have a look for the marriage of JOHN PACE b 1761 SHARESHILL to CATHERINE. (I didn't find one) Maybe Catherine's surname was HARGROVE, probably where the JOHN HARGROVE PACE b 1794, got his middle name from.
Jacek sends PDF file - magazine story of his ancestor JOHN FOUNS PACE - writes, August 20, 2005: Re: JOHN PACE
Jacek Lowinski writes September 05, 2005:
I apologize for weak English, I think that text will be comprehensible aly. jacek_lowinski@wp.pl
John Pace, along with wife Ann, and children Joseph Founes - Pace and daughter Matilda, in the latter part summers 20, XIX century. Arrived from him also his Ludwika's sister Pace, which went out married for Joseph Kugler. Different mechanics along with was imported to Polski by duke Drucki - Lubecki to start metal factory in Bi³ogon near Kielc. Factory these had to be started in April 1831. before actuation factory, he got lost tragically, was drawn in by near steam-engine and he got lost. Wins over of aunts writes about this in one's remembrances.- 1. John Founes - Pace, our the great grandfather Bia³ogon this wins over of the oldest factories metallurgical in Poland. Established in 1817 year on suburb Kielc by Stanislaw Staszic initially as foundry to melting the non-ferrous metals, and then the factory of Budowy of Machin, because the natural resource, which oneself Staszic he expected in neighbourhood, they disappointed. It machines hereinto were imported was factory from Englandi and to setting of their English arrived, and between them John Pace our great great grandfather. Dressed in some jacket with of the the time fashion the whether frock coat the modes of machine drew in for tail and he got lost. The board towards his memory was has built in on walls of factory which exists to today. Two of these English machines worked till 1956 year. The factory exists up to here, the factory of pumps, part of factory documents is in Archiwum at present in Kielcach. John he had son and daughter, which hid at Skarbków for some time, then hr. Skarbkowie gave wife - widow after John Pace, aswidow's pension, Mstyczów property and brick-yard. Son got Mstyczów, daughter went out married for Schirmer. Supposedly Schirmer, Helusia and they know Olek they interest them oneself genealogy and have message about family.
- 2. Z beginning XIX century the duke Xawery Drucki - Lubecki he imported to Poland the foreigners - the experts the aim of extension evolvent oneself the home industry. In 1826 year the engineer arrived from Anglii John Founes the Pace which was charged the device of mechanical factory in Bialogon under Kielce. He got lost tragically, drawn in through flywheel in eve actuation in 1831 year the plates shop new. His son he - Józef Pace - received from Russian government high damages, for which purchased Mstyczów in 1856 year from Leon Skorupka.
- 3. Aleksander Bocheñski, Wêdrówki po dziejach przemys³u polskiego, czêœæ II. IW „PAX”, Warszawa 1966. S. 360.
Tragical starting - spring 1830
Wolicki ordered and with this duty machines he arose pretty well. And despite this - just whether it it is not better from machines yet English technicians' personnel was: the engineer William Preacher from machine factory on Solec and mechanics: John Founes Pace and the William Mac Connol. If machines were so well tinned then then therefore, that they taught this our mechanics not only professional, but first of all reliable and conscientious work. Installation 27 machine tools and drills - just except English more far produced already factory on Solec - mechanic directed Pace. "The spring 1830 year - how Jan writes Pazdur - in eve of prospective arrival the comission from Warszawa, in persons Piotra Micha³owskiego, the later famous painter and Leona Sapiehy, John recommended the Pace to raise the flood-gate to to make sure or the whole functions without accusation. Having noticed in time of movement the need of small correction, he approached to screw tight slack screws personally. They kidnapped cog-wheel him for jacket, and got lost on the spot.”
I over this grave will return in next report yet - because saddens me and angers, that nor Pace, nor so many of different dead the and carbon papers it near building and production did not it wait for it then the poetry, but just the beautiful prose which their memory would keep. Let's there nowlet's finish about these chapter first, what work dead they led still.
- JOHN PACE had emigrated to POLAND
- being a STEAM ENGINEER
conducting start-up of steam engines
manufactured in ENGLAND for use in POLAND. - Two of these English engines worked 'till 1956.
- JÓZEF FOUNES-PACE 1813-1883
-
b 24-04-1813 Staffordshire
d 08-01-1883, PILICA- married 16-05-1836 in Kraków,
sw. Marcin,
daughter of FRYDERYK PFEIFFER
and JOANNA VON OBERKAMPF
She was born 16-05-1817 in Barbathka,
and died 20-08-1897 in PILICA
JÓZEF FOUNES-PACE
and AUGUSTA PFEIFFER- EMMA ANNA3 FOUNES-PACE 1837-1908
b. 11-07-1837 Zlozeniec pow. Olkusz d 28-04-1908 Wola Libertowska - MATYLDA FOUNES-PACE 1839-1917
b 05-06-1839 Bzów d 19-02-1917 Mstyczów - KAROL ALFRED FOUNES-PACE 1843-1910
- b 01-10-1843 Bzów
d 23-07-1910 Miechów- born 17-09-1852 in Warszawa
m 19-11-1877 in Warszawa
KAROL ALFRED FOUNES-PACE
and BERTA HOLTZ- EDGAR4 FOUNES-PACE
m. ZOFIA BUDZYNSKA. - NATALIA ZOFIA AUGUSTA FOUNES-PACE
- b. 09-09-1880, Warszawa
d. 1955 - JULIUSZ EMIL FOUNES-PACE
- b 13-01-1883, Warszawa
- WALDEMAR FOUNES-PACE 1888-1978
- b 21-09-1888 Warszawa
d 04-1978 MONTGOMERY, Maryland, USA - EMILIA FOUNES-PACE 1845-1908
- b 26-12-1845
d 26-04-1908 Jeziorna - JULIA FOUNES-PACE 1850-1888
- b 01-07-1850 Mstyczów
d 03-03-1888 - NATALIA FOUNES-PACE 1852-1897
- b 18-09-1852 Mstyczów
+ m. EUGENIUSZ KNAUT b 14-01-1842
d 14-08-1897
- EDGAR4 FOUNES-PACE
- EMMA ANNA3 FOUNES-PACE 1837-1908
- 8 MATYLDA FOUNES-PACE 1816-1853
- b Birmingham, England
d Kroczyce,Poland- b 1807 Monjoe (Prusy Nadrenskie)
m 1833 Krakow- 9 EDWARD SCHIRMER
b 1839 Biala Blotna
+ MARIA MALCZEWSKA
m 1865 Kroczyce b 1843 Igancowka - 9 ADOLFINA SCHIRMER
b 1840 Biala Blotna pow. Olkusz - 9 FLORENTYNA SCHIRMER
b 08 listopad 1844 Wlodowice - 9 ANNA ROZALIA SCHIRMER
b 04 sierpien 1846 Wlodowice - 9 HENRYK JULIAN SCHIRMER
b 02 sierpien 1848 Wlodowice - 9 LEOKADIA MATYLDA SCHIRMER
b 07 sierpien 1850 Wlodowice - 9 RUDOLF ROMUALD SCHIRMER
b 10 maj 1853 Kroczyce d 08 sierpien 1925 Jedrzejow
- 9 EDWARD SCHIRMER
- 8 JOHN FOUNES PACE Bialogon
- 7 SARAH (LUDWIKA) FOUNES PACE
Chr 10 APR 1803 Bilston,Stafford
+ JOZEF KUGLER 1787-1864 b Buczek d Bzow- 8 TEOFIL IGNACY HENRYK LUDWIK KUGLER 1829-1892
b 19 Grudzien 1829 Miedzno k.Czestochowy
d 09 czerwiec 1892 Mstyczow
- 8 TEOFIL IGNACY HENRYK LUDWIK KUGLER 1829-1892
- 7 ISAIAH PACE
Chr 18 JAN 1807 Saint Bartholomew, Wednesbury - 7 CATHERINE PACE
Chr 06 NOV 1808 Bilston, Stafford - 7 EDWIN PACE
Chr 09 APR 1815 Bilston, Stafford - Jacek,
I found this information on the free www.ellisisland.org web site:- First Name: Waldemar
- Last Name: Pace
- Ethnicity: Austrian, German
- Last Place of Residence: Warschau, Russia
- Date of Arrival: Aug 06, 1908
- Age at Arrival: 20y Gender: M Marital Status: S
- Ship of Travel: Pretoria
- Port of Departure: Cuxhaven
- Manifest Line Number: 0005
The passenger manifest will usually give more information. Be sure and check the whole manifest. Sometimes the pages get out of order when they are filmed/digitized. For this time period, there are usually 2 pages. There should be a page with the passenger's names and the other page has destination and where they came from or were born.
Also, another area to check is to see if a "Declaration for Intent for Naturalization" was filed. This usually happened the minute they landed or when they reached their destination. So be sure to check to see to see if he has one. These declarations are usually located in the county courthouses during this time period. Later on, you can check and see if he received Naturalization. That is usually located in the county courthouse too.
Another area to check is to request a copy of his Social Security Application. This is a bit more expensive to do. Before that, I would check the 1910, 1920, & 1930 census records.
I checked Ancestry.com for the 1910 census and I believe I found him in Alliance City, Lexington Township, Stark County, Ohio. He is listed as "Wilbur" Pace. He is the right age, 29. He says he is from Russia/Poland and he is a machinist. This corresponds with his family's history of working with machines and mechanics. He is a "roomer" at 805 Patterson St. along with many others.
I could not immediately find him in the 1920 or 1930 census. I did find him in the Social Security Death Index and it said he received or applied for his Social Security Number while he was living in Michigan around 1951.
POLISH HISTORICAL FACT indicates
POLISH HISTORICAL FACT also indicates sister SARAH also went to POLAND.
In 1831, due to an unfortunate industrial accident, his life was lost.+ ANNA TETLEY
1st marriage - WILLIAM FOUNES
died abt 1814 Birmingham Eng
-
Child of ANNA TETLEY
and WILLIAM FOUNES
DESCENDANT WRITES
- JACEK LOWINSKI, in Poland
has sent details of this lineage - connected to my Staffordshire PACE lineage - including picture of SARAH (LUDWIKA) FOUNES PACE and
sends the following
which references the death of JOHN PACECertificate of death John Pace
It happened in Kielce on the 20th of March 1831 at 8 AM. 40 years old Wilhelm Precher, mechanic and 40 years old Eliasz Kisielewski, inspector, both living in Bialogon village, appeared in front of me and stated, that on the 18th of March at 8 PM, in that village, 43 years old John Pace, husband of Marianna, father of Jozef and Matylda, has died. After making sure about John's death personally, this document was read to the present, and signed together with them.From Jacek in Poland
SARAH (LUDWIKA) FOUNES PACE
Subject: Waldemar Pace
Date: Tue, 18 Aug
From: Jacek Łowiński - jacek_lowinski@wp.pl
To: Gordon Pace - gtp3066@nexicom.net
Hello Gordon
I'm looking any information on Waldemar Pace (Founes-Pace) son of Karol Alfred and Berta Elzbieta (Elisabeth) Holtz, he was born in Warsaw-Poland September 21, 1888, died april 1978? in Sandy Springs Montgomery, Maryland. He arrived to USA on August 1908.
Best regards
Jacek Łowiński
Okrąg 6 c 38
00-407 Warszawa.....Since WALDEMAR emigrated to the USA,
I posted on the PACE ROOTSWEB mailing list and several PACE researchers took interest so here is some response:
Kim Stracener Zapalac
I checked Ancestry.com for the 1910 census and I believe I found him in Alliance City, Lexington Township, Stark County, Ohio. He is listed as "Wilbur" Pace. He is the right age, 29. He says he is from Russia/Poland and he is a machinist. This corresponds with his family's history of working with machines and mechanics. He is a "roomer" at 805 Patterson St. along with many others.